▶ Sadhguru and Danny Hillis talk about the basis of suffering. – A Practical application for “I am not this body, I am not this mind…(basis of the Isha Kriya)

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378367_142581702548410_1515403467_n▶ Sadhguru and Danny Hillis talk about the basis of suffering. – YouTube.

Please do click the link to view the video discussion that gives us a real understanding of why practicing The Isha Kriya is so valuable to us….to begin the end of suffering….to differentiate ourselves from limitations set by our own selves, family, society, religion….to be free to grow in all directions positively and progressively with clarity and peace.  If you are not familiar with The Isha Kriya please do find links on the index on this blog or do see the links on the bottom of my website http://www.omlinkyoga.net

Thanks to Sadhguru and The Isha Foundation for providing us with so many amazing formats to support us in understanding why our daily practices are so valuable….please do share and thanks for taking the time to read Omlinkblog……Namaste

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  1. Karissa Francis
    This video gave me a better understanding of what Sadhguru is saying when he says to separate the body and mind from you. The idea that we identify with things outside of ourselves as a means of self preservation is an interesting one that I had never considered.

  2. At the end of the video Sadhguru says “once there is a little distance or space, this is the end of suffering.” I agree with his statement that “you will only walk full stride when the fear of suffering is entirely removed from you.” When you finally learn to not fear, you will be able to achieve any goal.
    Alyssa Mercadante

  3. I feel that the more you practice the Isha Kriya it becomes more valuable. I remember after doing it the first time I didn’t feel like I got a lot out of it. After practicing it at home (about once a day for 15 minutes each time) I felt more at peace. I also feel that your surroundings make a difference while doing this. It helps to be in an environment that you know you won’t be distracted by anything around you so like that the experience is more effective. -Louis Spadaro

  4. After watching the video, I feel like I understand the concept of Isha Kriya a lot more than I did before. Repeating the mantra, helps you to let go of physical traits and identities, and connect directly with your spiritual being. The ideas of body and mind are incredibly limiting to your existence; logic being the bigger problem of the two. We as a people always feel the need to label everything and labels can create so much negative energy. When you can let go of those and find your mid ground, it makes sense as to why regularly practicing the Isha Kriya can be so helpful in discovering your inner peace.

  5. This video reminded me of A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle. In the book, the author discusses separating one’s self from identifying with the mind, body or ego. This is similar to the Isha Kriya because it is focused on the idea of not being/identifying with the mind or the body. We often identify ourselves by our interests, our appearances, our environment-everything that is within and without us is not ourselves. But if we are not the mind or the body, what are we? How do we separate from identifying with these things that cause suffering?

  6. Sadhguru’s idea about separating the mind and the body is a very interesting one because many people find it difficult to accomplish this. As shown in the video, Danny Hillis also found it hard to grasp the concept of separating the mind and body and being neither of them. Sadhguru makes it easy to understand the process of how to accomplish this, in order to be neither the body or mind you don’t have to change anything in your lifestyle or yourself at all. You just have to sit down and feel the mind and body separating.
    Thalia Perez

  7. Personally this is still a bit confusing to me. I do feel as if in this world we tend to isolate ourselves and categorize ourselves among one another. We become so occupied on what others have materially or physically and in a constant competition. I may be wrong, but I feel as though there is a purpose to us having life but I’m not quite sure what it is. What I do know is that we feed off our energies as well as the universes energy. We spend so much time preserving the body and focusing on things we shouldn’t be. We should be focusing on our inner beings and finding our purpose, which to me is being blocked by societies, distractions on what life should be. We are not objects among other objects just simply co-existing; there is another purpose that I want to find out. I’ve tried the meditation but it seems I can’t get my mind or body to let go and be free. I am the type of person who needs to be in control and I hope that I will find an outer body experience.

  8. I think it’s interesting to think about the mind being able to wrap itself around an outside idea. I can’t help but think of brain plasticity. It’s amazing to experience what your mind is capable of convincing the rest of your body. The brain is a muscle and can be trained and conditioned to think in a different way. By identifying with a larger idea that exists outside the physical body, we are able to change our internal value system to better our understanding of that larger idea. Sadhguru talks about how people are only taking “half-steps” because they are afraid of what could happen to them. This is an opportunity to abandon fear and displace it from your mind’s eye. By choosing to not identify with fear, the mind’s attention is held by something else and is free to work towards a different solution to problems.
    –Miranda Hughes

  9. I learned a valuable concept that is very important for me to understand and is something I’ve struggled with in my lifetime. That is “sweating the small stuff” or getting upset over small things that eventually have no great impact in my life other than what significance I’d allow to give it. To separate the body and intellect allows a vantage point which reveals that body suffering is only temporary and mind suffering, too, is only temporary. “Identity” and “labels” can allow our minds to become fixed on something, letting go of the idea of an inevitable change and could pose as suffering. Sadhguru’s last point of, “always the question is, what will happen to me?” reveals how the minds way of connecting itself with the body can cause agony, stress, suffering and once that is let go, anyone can march into a new experience and objectively appreciate it.

  10. The Isha Kriya perpetuates the idea that you are separate from both the mind and the body, and the mind and the body are the only things capable of suffering. The reason that we suffer, therefore, is because we do not separate ourselves from the mind and the body, and fear the suffering that can be afflicted upon them. Once we can separate ourselves from the entities of the mind and the body, then we cannot suffer with them, and therefore never have to fear suffering. I think that Sadhguru presents this idea very well in this interview, and clearly states how we can benefit from Isha Kriya so that even someone unfamiliar with the idea of the self being separate from the body and the mind could understand.

    -Amelia McNally

  11. Sadhguru speaks about the restrictions of identifying oneself. When a person identifies with something physical, or intellectual they are setting up a series of rules and regulations. These rules can stop a person from fully experiencing life. Separating the body and the mind from the self can help cope with situations that would normally cause a person to suffer.

    • Please do write about your Isha Kriya experiences each week the amount of times you practice and your awarenesses…starting from your next entries…this is part of your responsibility and you are graded on your progress…OM

  12. This video discusses how one has to unidentify with their body and mind so that they may live without limitation. Sadhguru goes on to say that the isha Kria is a physical practice to unidentify with physical and mental limitations and helps to end the suffering of the limitations of identity. It will help people grow and live positively.

  13. I found it very interesting that the best way to dodge pain (physical/mental) is to literally separate yourself from them. Many of Sadhguru’s teachings are so practical and yet I cannot say I’ve thought of them before. I am without a doubt going to try to stay in touch with his teachings in the future.

  14. I can honestly I am struggling with just relaxing and letting go. I get so side tracked with things around pay and me way too much attention to my body. If I try to relax ill just feel an itch somewhere or randomly think of something. I’m assuming it’s the type of person that I am and always have to be in control of what’s going on with me. I have done it at least twice a day except on the weekend when I went home because I was with my family and got distracted. Even though I attempt to do it and may not be doing it to my fullest potential I still feel better about every situation in my day. I am a bit calmer and less aware of my stress.

    • Thanks for your fresh and honest comments. Do know all beginners find some struggle as it takes some effort to put a new method into place. As you continue it will become easier and you will have more benefits… Be patient and continue regularly….OM

  15. The nature of suffering? The partnership of intellect and the idea of who you are. If you are into political discussion such as myself, you will hear the phrase “identity politics” used by a lot of libertarians and conservatives. They argue that people are too into what they are as opposed to what their ideas are. In the previous journal I did for this round of assignments, I mentioned the idea of “intraspecies competition”. Because people tend to latch onto their identities so forcefully, we in fact do center our thoughts around said identity. This can cloud our judgement and we end up creating competition with others who do not have the same identity as us. This is a hostile act that is simply not compatible for human interaction. I can see why yoga was created to combat this mentality as it does seem to come from the urbanization of the world, thus creating an urbanization of the mind. By having a relationship with no room for comfort between your intellect and your identity, you become more close minded and not willing to look outside of your identity. Because this goes against our nature, it causes suffering. Sadhguru points out that even a little distance between the two will eliminate the suffering. Maybe you have heard of the phrase “think outside the box”, the box being your identity, can definitely be applied here. As Sadhguru put it, “… such a mind, such a human being should not suffer the limitations of identity.”.

  16. What do you identify with?
    People identify with things that make them feel comfortable or things they are familiar with. I like when Sadhguru states that “we construct our own worlds, and we create boundaries for ourselves.” These made up boundaries create limitations and only hold us back. As individuals we need to find time to evaluate oneself and learn how to create space from mind and body. This practice will eliminate suffering, and will help one conquer goals.

    Humans have a fear of suffering. We are constantly worried about how we may get hurt, or feel in effect to something. We need to live in the present moment and be grateful for what we do have, and not what we don’t have.

    I personally feel like dance/ movement is an outlet for me to release energy and thoughts. It can be an “out of body/out of mind” experience. Relating this to the IK practice, I value this precious time to reach different places and ride the wave.

    We need to shed the pretentious and made up identities that we put on ourselves.

  17. Before responding intellectually I wanted to make some observations I found quiet interesting. It may not be of importance but the difference is curious. While watching each one speak, I found that Sadguru spoke slowly with a patient thought versus Danny who was fast to respond spoke much quicker. Danny had a tendency to interrupt a thought while Sadhguru carefully listened. Not only did he seem to be more careful about listening and speaking but his posture was more open. Sadhguru sat up right, with his arms broadly open, allowing his center to be bare in order to receive. Danny sat with his body closed in, crossed legs. arms wrapped around and hunched in, ready to defend. In this posture, Danny does not seem open to receive but to push back. I found this interesting how the body, the pace, the gestures are parallel to the conversation.

    I agree with Sadhguru, we as people have a tendency to attach ourselves to an identity, yes for self-preservation. I believe I mentioned this before in another journal entry; according to Walker Percy, it is important to create an identity. Without this truth, we have a tendency to wither away and feel worthless, as if we belong to nothing. Within ourselves lies the ability to become anything or anyone, so what we choose and what we repress is important to be aware of. The awareness can create a certain kind of humility and understanding towards the others. If we are not aware of this theory, it takes on another mask; defense, hate, anger. These theories remain true in Carl Jung’s studies as well. I believe that Danny did not want to be aware of this theory, therefore he was quick to defend. He wanted to remain true to the scientist; this is a form and embodiment of self-preservation.

    What I do find curious about the scientist, is the lack of knowledge of quantum physics. In some way or another the spiritual and the behaviors we take on are scientific as well. Perhaps to challenge, be a devils advocate Danny was quick to reject these ideas. Danny created these behaviors as impossibilities but within quantum physics exists a large philosophy. Quantum theory is the theoretical basis of modern physics that explains the nature and behavior of matter and energy on the atomic and subatomic level. Science is not entirely rational or conventional. Even one the greatest physicists, Albert Einstein found interest in the impossibilities as possibilities:
    “I fully agree with you about the significance and educational value of methodology as well
    as history and philosophy of science. So many people today—and even professional
    scientists—seem to me like somebody who has seen thousands of trees but has never
    seen a forest. A knowledge of the historic and philosophical background gives that kind of
    independence from prejudices of his generation from which most scientists are suffering.
    This independence created by philosophical insight is—in my opinion—the mark of
    distinction between a mere artisan or specialist and a real seeker after truth.”

    – Einstein. letter to Robert A. Thornton, 7 December 1944. EA 61-574.

  18. Sadhguru said, “Every human being is only half a step because always the question is what will happen to me?” This is an interesting quote because he speaks on self-preservation. In my opinion, Sadhguru relating this idea of self-preservation to suffering is an interesting connection because we have become so against each other. We no longer like to help each other, we only think about ourselves and the world is centered around only ourselves. The more and more times change, we become vainer as people. We don’t care about anyone because we live off of the idea of every man is for himself.

    In my personal experience, I use to be a person who would hide their feelings a lot. I lost a lot of friends because of how I react to certain situations. I would make sure that in every situation I was alright, I cared about other people. But, my main focus was always myself because I was taught that I have to make sure I am good, before anyone else. I have learned to believe that to certain extent because I took this idea way out of hand. Now, as a person who use to care only about my feelings, I learned that this leads to loneliness and suffering. That is why I am alone a lot because it took me some time to learn that, I shouldn’t be only worried about myself. I should be worried about others around me as well. This has also led me to want to work in an organization where I am helping students of color in schools in these poor neighborhoods. I want to help as much as I can. I don’t want to only care about myself.

    I want to relate this to how as humans we have even normalized the idea that we should only worry about ourselves. That is why we are so desensitized when we hear about what other events other countries are going through. This is because we only care for ourselves. As long as it doesn’t involve us, or isn’t anywhere near us. We think that it isn’t any of our business. It is sad, but it is true. Knowing this has led me to want to help out as much as I can because that’s what we are all here for: to work together and unite with each other.

  19. I found it interesting when he talked about how we are not the body, mind, or the intellect. We are beyond these things but we think that whatever happens to these things, happens to us. But we are more than that. If we are not afraid of suffering, then we can remove our attachment to the body or the mind. I found this really hard to grasp because it seems impossible to practice. My whole life I have believed that I am the body, the mind, and I am what I do and what I feel. I am afraid of suffering, because my whole life I have seen that suffering is bad, painful, and hurtful. I found it so amazing so hear him speak about how he can practice this and believe this, and practice this is his life. He explained how we can become this and how we can try to put this into our lives, and I will start to try to use these things in my own life.

  20. When humans react to their environment they have a tendency to categorize and compartmentalize objects, ideas, and experiences. We construct certain perceptions about ourselves and what makes us up as individuals. When who we believe ourselves to be appears at risk for some reason or another, we are scared of the impact of the changes that affect us. Through fear of danger to our minds, bodies, and intellects we experience suffering. It is important in yoga to draw a line of separation between ourselves, our bodies, our minds, our fears and limitations. Realizing that we have limited control over nature and the way of the world will relinquish one from fear of failure, loss, or pain.

    The Isha Kriya practice is one way of drawing the separation between the body and the mind, and to remember that all things are subject to change.

  21. Sadhguru is a global leader advocating for inclusive economics. He also uses the science of yoga to help individuals well being and overall health. He speaks on the chanting of “I am not this body, I’m not even this mind”. Stating that identity preserves oneself, wrapping the mind around the body becoming instantly connected and attached. Shedding identity strengthens the mind and body. Being conscious of oneself and you own identity makes someone empowered and more happy. Suffering can be experiences within the body and mind. Once there is suffering, the mind and body become occupied in unnecessary things. When chanting and being reminded that you are not your body and mind, the mind becomes clear and self-reflection can be assessed. I find that chanting these statements, especially in a collected group, increases the clearing of the mind. Feeling the vibrations within my body helps me center myself and focus on nothing but that.

  22. Suffering is completely self-constructed. As was discussed in the TEDtalk video, we are constantly reading information and daily experiences as either negative or positive. We actually have the ability to choose whether we interpret an experience as positive or negative, so training the mind to deal with these experiences differently can lead to a more optimistic outlook. Humans inherently remember the negative experiences more vividly than positive ones. For example, if you go on a vacation and it rains for the last day, that negative experience can easily overwhelm the positive memories that you had for the majority of the trip. One must train their own mind to learn from negative experiences and truly cherish positive experiences, so when one looks back in retrospect, they feel that they have had less negative experiences and feel overall happier about their past.

    Noah Schmitz

  23. This video is basically breaking down the “nature of suffering.” The question was presented, that if you don’t identify with the intellect or the body, then what would you identify with. Sadhguru’s take on this is that “If you don’t identify with the intellect or the body, then whatever you do identify with, it is the nature of the mind to work around it.” This has always perplexed me, because during the practice of the isha kriya we say “i am not the body, i am not even the mind.” Everything i thought to encompass a human being or the human experience was being questioned with that simple phrase. But as i watched this video it slowly became more clear.
    As sadhguru makes the reference of nationality. Whatever you are identified as, you will identify with and your mind will automatically coincide with this innately. It is a form of self preservation according to sadhguru. You don’t have to change what you’re doing outside of yourself, if you truly know yourself. Because a person who is conscious of himself will not struggle with identity. Sadhguru says the mind and the body are the only two sources of suffering and once you create a distance between the two that would signify the end of suffering. If the fear of suffering is entirely removed from you, then you can truly walk free “full stride”. Once you learn who you are and remove all self doubt you can truly be one with yourself and you shall end your suffering. As the struggles and influence of outside forces are removed as you separate your mind and body and your true self shall prevail.

  24. As a person with chronic illness, the idea of suffering and fear is something I deal with on a daily basis, and thus, I need to constantly weigh my options on whether or not to do most anything, for fear of the consequences these things will have on my body. Should I eat a meal now? Should I eat a meal at all? Should I wait until after class? Should I go on this car ride, or will that make me sick? Should I try to stay up later and push myself to finish this homework, or would I get sick? Should I just go to sleep now?– Over time, I’ve come to recognize that this fear has gradually pushed its way into most all aspects of my life, making it difficult to make most any decisions at all, for fear of making the wrong move and needing to face consequences for choosing the wrong option. (Should I go see my friend today, or should I stay in my room? Should I tell him his girlfriend is cheating on him?)

    What Sadhguru says at the end of this video truly hit home for me- “Only when the fear of suffering is entirely removed, only when the possibility of suffering is removed from you, you will walk full stride.” The key to continuing to keep moving in life is to slowly strip this fear out of you- otherwise you will never move at your full potential.

    • Do use the Finger Holds Practice to help you balance your emotions if you do it once or twice a day in about six weeks you will be in a position of strength and balance. Namaste

  25. While I’ve become more comfortable with chanting in the Isha Kryia and I now unsterstand the value chanting can bring to meditation. However, I do still after wonder about the meaning of “I am not this body I am not even this mind” and I often stuggle with thinking about how I can apply it to my life because usually have a hard time believing that I am not not my consciousness and my mind. I thought this video was very helpful in bettering my understanding of the meaning of the chant. The understanding I gained from this talk is that attachment distracts us from the fact that we are all part of a bigger picture and it is unessasry to be weighed down by worries of materialistic things, even bodies, and this is what causes suffering. Through the Isha Kryia, we can learn to let go of things that continue to cause us suffering and can achieve peace within ourselves through the idea that we are not limited by our bodies and minds. I look forward to applying this new approach suggested in the video to my Isha Kryia practice.

  26. After watching the provided video, I feel this discussion amongst Sadhguru and Danny Hillis touched upon key aspects as previously mentioned throughout our course material. Based on the concept of suffering, the influence of suffering is something that all individuals live through. Humans as I expressed throughout this course are all equipped with similar characteristics such as love, hate, anger, fear, and i.e. And these traits are completely normal to feel and express, however, through the ideologies of Sadhguru, there are proper guidelines in order to express these emotions and our discontent with them.

    As expressed in the video, Sadhguru mentions to us the “nature of Suffering” along with identity. Sadhguru correlates the nature of suffering with the common practice found within our Isha Kriya, and that practice would be the identifying with the body and or mind. When constantly focused on trying to find the deeper meaning of our lives, we distance ourselves from the current path laid out in front of us. Building stress upon the body and the mind simultaneously causes friction within our internal self, and until we find that separation amongst our mind and body, we unveil the path of clarity an end to suffering.

  27. I am not this body, i am not even this mind. This has become of great importance to me. Everytime i practice the HK i reminds me of the true values in life. It takes me out of the construct of boundaries set in place my martialist views. I always try to keep spiritual mind and focus on the small things in life rather than dwelling on the things i need or want. Its the small things that make up our existence only then do we grow into the macrocosmic aspects of life. We all to often over look the small which is always enough to stay content and peaceful. I am thankful to have been introduced to his practice as it is truly staring to have an effect on me.

  28. This video has helped me to better understand why exactly we chant, “I am not this body, I’m not this mind” during our IK practices. It is interesting to me when Sadhguru was explaining how we can attempt not to be our body, mind or intellect. Because that was how I felt when we first started practicing the IK. I thought how can I not be my body or my mind, that is what makes up me. Now I know that its not that one isn’t themselves rather, it is one separating themselves from their body and their mind to find peace.

  29. One of the first things Sadhguru talked about in this video was how identifying as something causes suffering. He specifically sited identifying with a flag, with a nationality made by imaginary borders. I understand what he means these identities people hold on to so tightly Indian, American, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu. When held on to as tight as some do they are a source of severe suffering. But I don’t believe totally dismissing those identities are the right call. I think what Sadhguru is saying is if we notice these identities starting to cause suffering we are holding on to them to tightly and have to learn to let them go a bit. I can identify as an upstate New Yorker and it will likely cause no suffering but if I hold on to that Identity so closely that I hate anyone who isn’t from their I will not be a happy content person.

    As far as separating my intellect from my body to remove suffering I don’t think I am quite there yet perhaps practicing the Isha Kryia more will help me understand it better. I understand how it may work for a the minutes practicing the Isha Kryia. But when your done the suffering might still be there. You still have to do something to take an active role. Meditating alone wont stop the sufering from coming back action still has to be taken.

  30. I think a lot of time, we are the cause of our own suffering by choosing paths that lead to indulgent or distracting behavior or things. It is easier to lose sight of what is right and pure ways of living than actually attempt to take higher roads. Suffering is caused by not being enlightened. What keeps people back from this is not truly understanding what enlightenment really is. These people choose ignorance over seeking out knowledge and they can tend to carry that practice into everything else they do in life.

    Suffering to me is settling or allowing yourself to be overtaken by things that seek to only use what you have and are selfishly. Since I have begun practicing the isha kriya, I have noticed that my focus is a lot clearer throughout the day and my physical posture is better.

  31. I have found that I immensely appreciate the refreshed feeling I get after the internal reflection the Isha Kriya provides. I often feel worn down from day to day but if I start my day with the IK practice, I feel as though I can take on the world. It helps me regain a zeal for life and passion for my music that I often lose sight of. The video offered some much needed clarification about some unclear details of the practice.

    I found a quote by Sadhguru that I found to tie directly to what I discussed in the prior paragraph: “Our lives become beautiful not because we are perfect, our lives become beautiful because we put our hearts into what we’re doing.” This resonated with me because musicians are not praised solely for having perfect technique but rather a balance of that and the passion which allows for musicality to burst forth. Passion cannot be learned, it has to be there inherently but it can be restored. The Isha Kriya helps me with just that. If, I have a bad day where I feel like this isn’t what I’m meant to do or that I want to give up, I might sit and practice my IK and often feel restored. It does in fact help to end internal suffering!

  32. Firstly, I’d like to say that I appreciate the conversation between these two people who could have opposing sides. Then they work together to help each other to understand one another’s thinking. I enjoy that they both agree on many levels and there is not much of conflict. That they both help one another to create a greater understanding.

    I also appreciated that Sadhura he made it simple for him, that it wasn’t about what are physically doing. It is more about the little things and changing the ways of your thoughts. The fear and possibility of suffering need to be more than at bay to remove yourself from suffering, There is much truth with this, I found it fascinating that something is truly so simple.

  33. This was a very interesting back and forth that definitely addressed some questions that i would have asked Sadhguru if given the possibility? The main one clearly being about identification. The picture of humanity problem with identification is painted clear when looked through the context of boarders, race, and ethnicity. The symbol of the flag is the best symbol one could use to discus identity. Flags truly are objects that people wrap their minds around and act in conjunction with its held ideas. The example is good for human history and identifications because it is the strongest point that represents war/suffering along with survival.

    The second point made about suffering is something i can relate to hearing being raised around Irish Catholics my whole life. Besides the stories of fire and brim stone and sin, it was always clear within the allegories of Christianity and Catholicism that life is nothing BUT suffering. The only thing you can hope to do in life is to reduce the suffering that come to you. This idea of suffering is common among spiritual practices because it is the incentive itself to practice them.

  34. While it is important to chant during meditation, I do wonder the meaning of our chant during the Isha Kryia. We are our body and our mind so saying this is a bit confusing. I guess it is better understood from a more philosophical point of view. I hope that maybe I can understand it someday.

  35. I have to be honest the ideas of separating myself from my mind, body, and intellect is extremely hard for me. I do however recognize that learning to separate myself from it would definitely reduce suffering. I however love identifying with things. I am so proud to be Puerto Rican and Honduran. I am proud to be a woman. I am proud of my intellect. I suppose the trick is to remain proud but understand that those things are not me. Me is something that wouldn’t change even if these identities do. I however cannot even begin to imagine what this Me is that wouldn’t change. Is Me my inner thoughts feelings and emotions? I would think no because many of these were taught to me as I grew and are perceptions. It is a hard concept to grasp when you’ve lived your whole life categorizing and identifying. However back to the lack of identifying ending suffering this I can actually grasp. At first I thought it is important for me to identify as a person of color because POCs are severely oppressed and victims of violence and it is important for me to fight for people’s rights because they are oppressed but my identity shouldn’t be a factor. If nobody has identities we will just value any person’s life and not care if we share identities. This goes even further that we will just value lives even if it’s an animal because what will the difference be they will be alive and that is the value.

    • Excellent thoughts to ponder over and over! Perhaps as you do begin to distance yourself from identifying with groups your Spirit may rise and you may allow yourself to merge with all living beings, Namaste

  36. I really understand the message being portrayed through the Isha Kryia chant after listening to this talk. To think that we are this one thing, to identify with something in that matter restricts us. We become so attached to the idea of who we are trying to be or what we are committed to, that we loose track of living our lives to the fullest. If you are not running around an idea trying to adhere to it, you have the possibility to do so much more than just what benefits the identity.

    And, while I understand it, I do find it difficult to always keep in mind. I’ve found myself getting wrapped up in things and people so much so that I am not really living the best life for me. It is definitely something I’ve been working on and something I really think I’ve been getting better with.

    I really want to share my experience of today’s in class IK. I was sitting up, chanting, and I felt the vibrations of the syllables moving up me through my throat and out into the room. I could feel the chant moving my body. When I closed my eyes at the end part, I immediately envisioned swatches of color coming into “sight” behind my closed eyes. There was lavender and warm yellows. It was a beautiful experience and it made each position for the rest of the practice feel like so much more.

  37. The video covers the power of identifying with something, and how it is done as a form of self-preservation. The idea of identifying with something is a bit tricky but Sadhguru gives an example of how identifying with something works and the way a person function with that identity. He used nationality as something an individual identify with and it that everything will revolve around that identify. This reminds of the chants we use when we do the Isha Kriya and the ideas of attachment that were discussed in a previous post. The source of suffering is the fear of it itself, Sadhguru says that if the possibility of suffering was taking away one would be able to walk full stride. He encourages to let go of the attachment to the body and to the mind as a form of identity. In the Isha Kriya, we chant “I am not the body, I am not even the mind”. In order to find inner peace, these attachments shouldn’t be part of one’s identity.

  38. I have to admit, I thought the Isha Kriya chant was simply a way for us to let go of and momentarily disconnect ourselves from the inhibitions we might have about our bodies or stressful thoughts that we have, but it is so much more than that.
    In the video the Sadhguru discusses identification with our intellects and bodies. I have always felt good about attaching myself to these identities; my identity is everything to me, so hearing that we are not our bodies, our thoughts or intellect was kind of shocking and new for me. It is true, though, that we wrap ourselves in these ideas for self-preservation. When you feel lost in the world or unsure of yourself, you can always rely on your physical body or identity politics to remind yourself, “this is me, I am here”. Yet the Sadhguru argues that we are not.
    He states that we only acquire suffering through our bodies and minds; physical pain and emotional pain. I do agree that it is very easy to make these two suffer, but it was interesting to me that he said with a little space and the fear of suffering taken away, we will not suffer. This is something I think I need more time to contemplate because the idea of being so far removed from our bodies and minds, the two things we are always told to cultivate (through school, exercise, interpersonal relationships, etc), seems nearly impossible to put into practice.
    At the end of the video, when he discusses our fears of what will happen to ourselves (and how we see ourselves as our bodies and minds), I was reminded of the ending of a book I read recently, The Kingdom of This World, by Alejo Carpentier. In it, one of the characters is able to harness voodoo and animal magic to transform himself into animals and even when he is believed to be killed, everyone around him still believes he lives on- he has just transcended his physical form. At the end of the novel the narrator harnesses this shape-shifting power as well and it causes him to reflect on his life and reach a higher state of thought, at which point he realizes that his physical form was “just a body of flesh to which things had happened.” This line stuck with me when I finished the novel because it made me consider how important our bodies actually are and the meaninglessness of our physical forms, and how even when the narrator was an animal he realized all living things suffer the same way. This idea of achieving a higher consciousness and realizing that your body means nothing and is simply a vehicle is still very interesting to me, and I instantly thought of the novel when the video was over.

  39. This video shows the different ways we can think about our body, identity and intellect. Sadhguru believes that we should shed our identity and be still within our bodies, that we are more than our body and minds and if we feel this and belie it, it can help to relieve suffering. Both Sadhguru and Danny Hillis believe that what we impose on ourselves is not the nature of reality and that we should not suffer the limitations of identity. They believe that we are beyond what we think we are and what other people think we are.
    As a sociology major I agree with this because while there is some truth to identity, most things are socially constructed and all of the language and discourse around humans and individuality can be limiting and for the most part is inherently made up. This makes me wonder, how would we collectively go about internalizing “I am not the body, I am not even the mind”?

    • By practicing together IK, first by establishing safe parameters to practice together and to understand the value and power of the Kriya. Once it starts to reverberate then the benefits expand exponentially. Are you thinking of creating a collective IK group?

  40. In the Isha Kriya mantra the words are so simple yet so profound. When I first started practicing I felt uncomfortable and a sense of attachment, saying to myself “No this is my mind and body it all belongs to me”. But once I thought about it in depth and kept practicing I realized that I am not bound to this body or mind, my spirit exceeds this physical vessel. As spiritual beings we are not just limited to this body, our spirit transcends beyond that allowing us to become part of the universal. This mantra has allowed me to conquer and deal with certain types of pain or struggle which I would before classify as unbearable. We all endure some form of suffering and pain, but its how we react to it that will change our experiences. The IK practice allows us to break the limitations we have put on ourselves and remove fear from controlling us. I’ve always had a huge fear of the dentist/oral surgeon but after working on my IK I was able to build a healthy relationship with my dentist and take care of myself. I scheduled two appointments a week apart and during the both procedures I closed my eyes, focused on nose breathing and made it through with barely any pain! Which also showed me that I can apply this knowledge to many aspects of my life, not just in the controlled environments where I normally practice my IK. I’m extremely appreciative and grateful for the shared knowledge.

  41. Between juggling multiple jobs, school work and a junior project, I think one thing I am proud of is being able to set time aside for my IK practice. Although it isn’t much I have averaged doing it 2-3 times a week. And I think Sadhguru’s words encompass this, you are more than the stresses, obstacles and pressures in your life. That everything can be manageable and contained and that outside forces don’t define who you are to yourself, your body, mind or soul. I think we often create things to seem impossible and are easily overwhelmed. Some times it can feel like you’re drowning form the constant struggles in life however “I am not my body I am not even my mind” although can feel strange to say I think it is simple. I think it just means that you are not defined by the negative thoughts or actions in your life and that we can all overcome it if we allow ourselves to step back and acknowledge and harness our capabilities to move forward positively, regardless of how hard it gets, we will make it through!

  42. The video speaks of identifying yourself. Which is always important. He explains as once you have no fear you can become truly successful which is so important. This video spoke to me on multiple levels. It was extremely enjoyable and mind opening. I took a lot of this to heart. It took me a long time to get an inkling of who I thought I was. It’s beautiful when you can figure it out though. Now that I know I believe I will be successful no matter what as long as i put my mind to it.

  43. Sadhguru had a number of interesting ideas in this video. I’ve always wondered exactly why we chant “I am not this body, I am not this mind” in class and now I understand the importance of this saying. We are too attached to our physical selves that we often forget our spiritual selves, therefore, disconnecting yourself from the body and mind helps with finding that spirituality that we often forget about. In a sense, we are letting go of the unnecessary parts within ourselves such as the “labels” that have been forced on us and that we have willingly forced upon ourselves. Once you let go of these things, you learn to let go of the suffering that has also caused you to hold back from yourself.

    – Samantha Diaz

  44. I have to admit in the beginning I struggled with doing the IK practice until I had a panic attack one day this semester and decided to do the IK later that night and it truly helped. I wasn’t sitting in a room by myself but I took a walk alone down a quiet trail and whispered the chants to myself and it made all the difference and opened my eyes to the benefits it has. I also enjoy it most in class when there so many of us doing the chant because you can feel everyone’s energy and vibrations bouncing off the walls both emitting from you and being thrown at you and it creates this elevated state of being. It’s like nothing I’ve ever experienced.

  45. What I think is most amazing about suffering is, as Sadhguru says, all suffering is manifested in the logical mind. If you are within your intelligence, then you will always be suffering. The only people that never suffer are the Buddhas, who are that because they are above their intelligence, and thus have eliminated all suffering in life. He says we need to be more than our bodies, more than our minds, in order to separate ourselves from our intelligence. I can honestly say that I am completely consumed by my own intelligence, and thus am suffering constantly. It does make sense when you think about it, that the anxieties and stresses of life present themselves when we are forced to make intelligent decisions regarding our future. Ideally one would make the decision without regarding their own personal intelligence, but this is extremely difficult for those who haven’t achieved spiritual enlightenment. In my practice of the Isha Krya I enjoy being able to escape my intelligence for just a few short minutes each day. The simplicity of the chant is designed to bring you into a calm, simple mindset, yet still allowing you to maintain the utmost sophistication in your spirituality. Ideally one who can enjoy the mindset of the Isha Krya 24/7 has escaped their perceived intelligence, and is living life through the most simple, perfect mindset. It’s amazing how the Isha Krya is actually a 12-15 minute escape from suffering.

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